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Re: 7 kv -at- 1 amp transformer
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Subject: Re: 7 kv -at- 1 amp transformer
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From: Skip Greiner <sgreiner-at-mail.wwnet-dot-com>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:43:24 -0700
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> From: richard.quick-at-slug-dot-org (Richard Quick)
> Subject: 7 kv -at- 1 amp transformer
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:37:00 GMT
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> Quoting Skip Greiner <sgreiner-at-mail.wwnet-dot-com>:
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> > I have a chance to pick up a 7 kv -at- 1 amp plate transformer at
> > a very good price. I wonder if anyone in the group has
> > attempted to work with this low a voltage transformer....
> > successfully?
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> I have fired with single plate transformers in the 5-6 kV range
> but it is not something you can do easily and reliably. You need
> external current limiting and a rotary gap. Because the input
> voltage is so low the rotary electrodes needs to be practically
> contacting the stationary electrodes in order to get the gap to
> fire. At one point I tried replacing the stationary electrodes
> with a soft bristle brass brush and actually allowed contact
> to the rotary wheel electrodes: while it worked I would not
> recommend doing this for reasons that should be obvious.
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> Tesla's liquid mercury break would be ideal for operating in this
> voltage range. Anybody aware of any reproduction units in
> existence? I have looked at the patent diagrams carefully and
> this looks like it would be a major bear to reproduce a large
> unit capable of switching any real power.
>
> However, and this is key, if you can lay your hands on two of
> these type transformers they can be ganged with the primaries
> in parallel and the secondaries in series and they will serve
> well. Being a pack-rat I would definately pick one of these up
> if the price were right in the hopes of running across a second
> transformer of the same or similar type.
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> Large plate transformers of this type fall into the "boat-anchor"
> category at some HAMfests. If you spot one laying out, you can
> frequently come back at the end of the day (they are not "hot"
> sellers with the solid state crowd) and walk away with one for
> next to nothing (after you pay the bill for the hernia repair).
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> The other thing I guess I could mention, is running the variac up
> at 280 volts input and pushing the 7kV plate transformer up to
> rotary gap set very close.
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> Richard Quick
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> ... If all else fails... Throw another megavolt across it!
> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
Richard
Thanks for the in depth reply. I do have a question. I have only been on
the list a short time but on several occassions a recommendation has been
made to parallel primaries and series up the secondaries to obtain higher
output voltages. It seems to me that a 7kv xformer would have insulaion
capable of handling 7kv plus a safety factor, maybe 25 to 50% or say 10kv
at the most. If the two secondaries are series connected, we are going to
have 14 kv floating around both xformers, each having 10kv insulation.
Where am I wrong? Or are we making an assumption that the insulation is
really good for much higher voltages than the nameplate may imply?
Yours for bigger and better sparks
Skip Greiner