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Re: GNATS meeting, and harmony/synergy

Subject: 
        Re: GNATS meeting, and harmony/synergy
  Date: 
        Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:05:33 -0700 (MST)
  From: 
        Chip Atkinson <chip-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
    To: 
        Tesla List <tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>


On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Tesla List wrote:

> Subject: 
>         Re: GNATS meeting, and harmony/synergy
>   Date: 
>         Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:34:34 -0500 (EST)
>   From: 
>         richard hull <rhull-at-richmond.infi-dot-net>
>     To: 
>         Tesla List <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> 
> 
> At 12:12 AM 3/17/97 -0600, you wrote:
> >Subject: 
> >        GNATS meeting, and harmony/synergy
> >  Date: 
> >        Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:09:47 -0700 (MST)
> >  From: 
> >        Chip Atkinson <chip-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com>
> >    To: 
> >        tesla-at-poodle.pupman-dot-com
> >
> >
> >Greetings all,
> >
> >Wow!  I can finally write something about my day's activities, rather
> >than
> >list stuff or something I did ages ago!

<SNIP to avoid hypocracy :-) >

> >
> >After thinking about it a small amount, it appears that the 0.025 cap is
> >just too big for the 4" coil setup, but is just right for the 6" coil.
> >Although I do believe that I had the 4" coil tuned properly, it was very
> >interesting that the larger capacitor produced a much rougher operation.
> >
> >Any ideas or suggestions?  
> >
> >Chip
> >
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> > Chip Atkinson 
> > http://bhs.broo.k12.wv.us/homepage/chip/info.htm
> > --- Tighten it 'till it strips and back off half a turn ---
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> >
> >
> Chip,
> 
> Very wierd indeed!  As the only change was the secondary,  We must
> assume
> the secondary or its coupling were at fault.  What fault that is, may
> have
> to be investigated.  It sounds like the coupling was way high on the 4"
> or
> it was in some way loading up the primary system. 
> 
>  The opposite could even be the case.  If you run a coil without a
> secondary, you can get a lot of flaming due to too little of the energy
> being taken up and it just winds up back in the primary coil, causing
> flaming.
> 
> Interesting observation.
> 
> 
> Richard Hull, TCBOR
> 

Richard,

One thing that you mentioned and I forgot to mention is that Jeff and I
tried getting the gap to work with just the primary and no secondary at
all.  Same flaming!  This now indicates to me that the 6" secondary was
taking energy out of the system and allowing the gap to quench.

I am going to try an experiment sometime this weekend if I get the
chance.
I'm going to rig a pulley in the garage and attach a line through it to 
the top of the coil.  Then while the coil is running I'll try to slowly 
raise the secondary and see where the output is the best.  I figure the 
best output will imply the "best" use of energy.

Here's another question -- If I really work on a gap system that allows
me 
to produce a nice snappy spark on the rotary with no secondary in the 
circuit, do you think that I would then have a really excellent gap
system 
that would Do Great Things, or would it be just an exercize?  Of course,
if
no one knows, I can always try the experiment too.


Chip


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