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Re: cap firing voltage scope measurements question
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To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
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Subject: Re: cap firing voltage scope measurements question
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From: Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:51:39 -0600
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In-Reply-To: <4542e55b.24994d3a-at-aol-dot-com>
Hi John,
At 02:55 PM 6/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm seeing some strange results in my TC:
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> Here are some cap voltage measurements under different conditions:
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> I set my input variac at 60, and the scope indicated the output voltage
> of xfrmer was 15.2kVpeak, without the TC connected.
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> At the same variac setting, but with TC connected, but with the
> spark gap removed, the cap voltage reads 22.3kVpeak. I suppose
> I'm getting some resonant charging here with this particular ballast
> setting.
Yes, the reactance of the primary cap is cancelling the reactance of the
ballast and allowing for resonant rise effects.
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> At the same variac and ballast setting, but with the gap firing
> (120bps), and the TC producing sparks, the cap voltage reads
> 30.4kV. This means I'm obtaining a 2X voltage increase during
> ~1/2 cycle, I thought this degree of resonant build up was possible
> only when using DC charging?
Such a high voltage rise seems strange to me but I could belive it in an
LTR setup with a sync gap. Of course, the scope or probe may have bad
bandwidth characteristics or your getting noise which may be messing the
readings up. However, I thought you were using pretty good HV probes and
such but that would be the first place I would look for a problem... Do
you have safety gaps? They should be firing like made at 30kV I would think...
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> Does this seem normal? I would have expected the voltage to be
> lower with the gap firing since there's less time for resonant voltage
> build-up. In there a gap in my understanding? Or is my scope
> reading wrong? The 30.4kV makes sense from a Joule perspective,
> since it comes out to 840 cap watts or so, and the meter reads 1000
> watts, which seems about right.
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> Mystery, or insanity?
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> Thanks,
> John Freau >>
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Just a mystery at this point. Much more work to be done before the
benefits of insanity start to simplify our investigations :-))
Very great work you are doing there!!
Terry