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RE: Chaotic Resonance(Solid State Coilers)
Original poster: "Ross Overstreet by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <ross-o-at-mindspring-dot-com>
James,
Conservation of Energy - it's more than just a good idea, it's A LAW.
I'm sorry but we have to draw a line somewhere.
Assuming you managed to find a shortcut around the 1st Law of
Thermodynamics, the money for some additional wire or some time to wind
coils would NOT be a problem.
Until the idea can be properly demonstrated and successfully pass a
scientific peer review, it can only be viewed, at best, as fiction.
Think about this... Using your figures below, Bill Wysock would be able to
power his 125KVA Model 13M and produce 55+ ft arcs with 2.81 Watts Input?!?
Ross-O
Austin, TX
http://users.better-dot-org/roverstreet
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Subject: Re: Chaotic Resonance(Solid State Coilers)
Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
<elgersmad-at-fnworld-dot-com>
I'll check the driver schematics but, if there's a problem I doubt that
it's Vin. I know that if you bypass the coupling capacitors to the
mosfets, and the ground resistor, it will work better but, it's
unshielded. That means directly driving the mosfets from the
operational amplifiers.
I don't want to argue weather the circuit will produce more energy or
not. Further more, if you follow those specific instructions, you will
get the same results I did, and that circuit will generate more
electricity than it uses by far. I have managed power gain factors
over 10,000. I couldn't afford wire or the time to wind the right
coils but, the instructions are there at that site, and if you use 1MHz
as your operating frequency, and inductive reactance is low enough, the
simulator I was using, was right on the breadboard comparisons. So,
that would be an input of 36 Watts, and an output of 1.6 Megawatts.
1.6 Megawatts takes some very thick wire but, all of the smaller scaled
down versions of the circuit, and the simulations matched out on
resistive loads. You could almost heat a football stadium with just 36
watts of power. If follow the step by step instructions, you will have
working version at the frequency you picked. You pick the operating
frequency by the value of inductance of the primary of the first coil
since the two transformers are a matched pair. Why talk jargan, when
the rules of thumb, and the order of operations of equations, plus,
every key you need to press on the calculator in order to get each
solution is there. It's just the how to build it, not a lecture, just
the surprize that goes with building it. The higher the operating
frequency, the more effecient it becomes until it reaches about 1MHz
because, it gets harder to wind coils that much smaller. The higher
the frequency the higher the inductive reactance for any coil, and a
large number of turns would act as a current limiter. That would
eliminate current from the power of the output. So, that web page is a
straight shot, not bull.
James W. Elger.
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Subject: Re: Chaotic Resonance(Solid State Coilers)
From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 23:38:58 -0700
Original poster: "Marco Denicolai by way of Terry Fritz
<twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <Marco.Denicolai-at-tellabs.fi>
Hi James.
I think you have got some errors in your driver schematics at "Chaos
VIII"
page.
Namely, I think you should add a connection from the source of the
MOSFETs to
V-in.
You got very good instructions there, but could you also explain *what*
they are
teaching to build? I mean, something like an introduction to the main
idea and
principle.
Regards
"Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> on 28.12.2000 20:25:17
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
cc: (bcc: Marco Denicolai/MARTIS)
Subject: Chaotic Resonance(Solid State Coilers)
Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
<elgersmad-at-fnworld-dot-com>
I have a complete tutorial web page available at
http://members.nbci-dot-com/suckyfish/Resonance/ChaosI.html
If you are interested in a killer solid state driver that in tests, and
simulations will produce more energy than it uses, then follow the
detailed instructions at my web page. It includes key press order for
each equasion, and uses second equasions to check your results and find
the right capacitors for any pair of matched coils. The complete
circuit would make an excellent driver for the primary of any tesla
coil, and if you have questions about effeciency, or how to wind the
first two coils, I can refer to which web page, or if you ask, I can
tell you about the optimum operating frequencies for the Chaotic
Resonant Circuit.
James.
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