Re: Ball Lightning

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Original poster: "Metlicka Marc by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <mystuffs-at-orwell-dot-net>

Malcolm, All
This was one of the things i was curious about when i brought up my idea
of winding two or three coils on one form a while back. I wondered if i
used my idea of starting the first coil at the base, then the next coil
of a different size wire at 4" or so above the base, and a third above
that, then use three primaries, each tuned to it's corresponding
secondary. Using two or three legs of three phase wye and using stsg's
for each separate tank.
I wondered if the different frequencies at lagging phase relationship,
being triggered in sync with there own phase.
Maybe at some point these streamers which will come from the same
topload, might interact causing a neat effect? maybe some balls of
energy?
I have the form ready and the first coil started up to the point where
i'm to start the next winding, but things come up, i get side tracked
and i have to put the new darlington's in my ac drive that produces
three phase from single and has variable frequency feature.
I'm sure i'll get back to it and finish it to give it a try, but time is
time and there just isn't enough of it for all that i want to do?

Maybe when we get avalon built for the geek group i can get some
assistants for these harebrained ideas?
I really want to see if three separate coils, with three separate
primaries and tanks tuned at different fo, can be made to discharge from
one topload?
Strange ideas from a strange mind,
Marc

Tesla list wrote:
> 
> Original poster: "Malcolm Watts by way of Terry Fritz
<twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <m.j.watts-at-massey.ac.nz>
> 
> On 11 Jan 2002, at 8:42, Tesla list wrote:
> 
> > Original poster: "Nebojsa Kovacevic by way of Terry Fritz
> <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <morfeus-at-EUnet.yu>
> >
> > 73
> > Hello All!
> >
> > As for the ball lightning: what about the fact that Tesla mentioned in
> > his experiments, that he generated sphere lightning using just
> > discharging of two diferent frequencies, using the high frequency coil
> > to arc to the low frequency coil, the low frequency coil would then
> > release it`s energy rapidly, in a burst. He was saying also something
> > about discharging the two diferent frequency streamers through the
> > larger pipe, and notice little spheres inside as a product of a
> > colision.
> >
> > "...it became apparent that the fireballs resulted form the interaction
> > of two frequencies, a stray
> >                      higher frequency wave imposed on  the lower
> > frequency oscillations of the main circuit....
> >
> >                     This condition acts as a trigger which may cause the
> > total energy of the powerful longer wave
> >                     to be discharged in a infinitesimally small interval
> > of time and the proportionately tremendously
> >                     great rate of energy movement which cannot confine
> > itself to the metal circuit and is released
> >                     into surrounding space with inconceivable violence.
> >
> >                     It is but a step, from the learning how a high
> > frequency current can explosively discharge a lower
> >                     frequency current, to using the principle to design
> > a system in which these explosions can be
> >                     produced by intent."   -N. Tesla
> >
> > But he never really explained how he acchieved the generation of this
> > phenomenon.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Nele
> 
> I seem to recall that Greg Leyh once thought of firing a 40kW coil at
> a charged Marx bank with some 10k's of Joules of pent up energy. For
> all the talk about frequency differences between coils, I cannot see
> the difference between firing a coil at a charged capacitor and
> firing it at the top termial of a another TC. Spark leader phenomenon
> are orders of magnitude faster than typical TC frequencies anyway -
> to all intents and purposes, the coils are behaving just like a pair
> of charged capacitors. Ironically, in the scheme I previously
> mentioned (the carbon point) Ken Corum explicitly stated that air
> streamers were required which doesn't appear to square well with this
> particular idea. I see a good deal of whimsy in some proposals but
> little theoretical support. Besides, who truly knows what BL is
> anyway. Some people doubt it even exists.
> 
> Regards,
> malcolm
> 
>