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Re: The Day the Music Died (was T&R Electric)
Original poster: "colin.heath4 by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <colin.heath4-at-ntlworld-dot-com>
hi there,
im all for if you buy a bit of kit and harm yourself with it
then unless the gear was faulty(being used within its correct design
constraints) then its your own fault.
i slit my leg open with a stanley knife a few years ago with fat hanging out
and all.
well thats my fault for being a t###!
i think we all get the point now.
cheers
colin
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From: Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: The Day the Music Died (was T&R Electric)
> Original poster: "Crow Leader by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<tesla-at-lists.symmetric-dot-net>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:22 PM
> Subject: The Day the Music Died (was T&R Electric)
>
>
> > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> <wysock-at-ttr-dot-com>
>
> [cut prattle about music]
>
> > First, Condenser Products, next CSI, and now T&R Electric. I now
regret
> > that I ever
> > even mentioned any of my suppliers on my web site. How many of you out
> there
> > on this TCML ever even knew, (or had heard of by any other means),
names
> like
> > O. W. Landergren or T&R Electric, before I published my papers on my
own
> web
>
> Sorry to ruin more of your music, but these companies can easily be found
if
> you look for suppliers of what they make. Some years ago I used the Thomas
> Registry and came across a few of them. Now it's just a matter of looking
on
> google. No magic is involved, and you're not the only person who knows
about
> these companies.
>
> > I think most of you know who I am. Most coilers refer to me as the
"Grand
> > Father of
> > Modern Tesla Coil Design". Big F-ing deal! Many of you know that I
have
> *not*
> > posted any replies to the THOUSANDS of emails that Terry Fritz
moderates
> > (and forwards) on this TCML, for over a year now. But, this latest
*news*
> has
> > angered me to the point that I am now sending this reply. I hope that
> > Terry will
> > post it (in its entirety).
> > I've been in the (business) of professional Tesla Coil building,
design,
> and
> > applications, longer then anyone else on this List. I've seen people
like
> > Durlin
> > Cox (Resonance Research Corp.), Ed Wingate, and Jeff Parisse (kVA
> Effects),
> > all come up through the ranks. I have supported this. I have also
> directed
> > thousands of inquiries that I have received over the years, to the
> pupman-dot-com
> > email site. Perhaps I was wrong to do this. It seems that
(thankfully)
> > very few
> > *individuals* out there on this TCML, believe that their mistakes and
the
> > misfortunes
> > should result in everyone else having to suffer the consequences of
their
> > actions.
>
> That's not their call, that's the call of the business that shuts its door
> to people who call up asking for parts for their tesla coil. I work in the
> computer field, and there are customers I simply won't deal with, as I
know
> it's not worth my time. It's my option, and I can do as I please. Crying
> because vendor X won't sell product to a group of people is as silly as me
> demanding that you sell me a giant coil, even if you know I'm inept and a
> total moron and will end up on the news with some incredible accident I
> create with it.
>
> Tell me, would you sell a giant coil to any old fool with a few dollars,
and
> no clue? Is it worth you time in the long run?
>
> KEN
>
> > This is why I say that this is "The Day the Music Died". If any of
you,
> > and you all
> > know just who you are, have any issues with what I have stated above,
(or
> > for that
> > matter what Jeff Parisse stated before), I INVITE you to email me
direct,
> > off this List.
> > With all due Respect to those who deserve it,
> > Bill Wysock.
> > >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > >To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > >Subject: T&R Electric - No More...
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:19:19 -0600
> > >
> > >Original poster: "Jeff W. Parisse by way of Terry Fritz
> > ><teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jparisse-at-teslacoil-dot-com>
> > >
> > >TCML,
> > >
> > >T&R Electric is out of the business of selling to Tesla coilers
because
> of
> > >a complaint and threat of lawsuit by a hobbyist. They won't even sell
to
> > >kVA Effects anymore even with our insurance, corporate status and
time
> in
> > >the business.
> > >
> > >This is the same story as Condenser Products a while ago. They sold
TC
> > >parts, TCML bought 'em, someone threatened a lawsuit (you know who
you
> > >are: I do!) and now they won't sell to Tesla coilers.
> > >
> > >Moral: You makes your sparks you takes your chances. Be a grown-up
and
> > >keep your complaints and lawsuits to my vendors to yourself! This is
> > >EXACTLY the reason that we do not disclose any of our vendors to the
> hobby
> > >community nor provide specific help or advice on building coils.
> > >
> > >Jeff
> > >p.s. Ed Wingate predicted five years ago that the supply of certain
> parts
> > >(pole pigs, etc.) would evaporate once someone got hurt or started to
> > >complain. I am sorry to say that his predictions (injury, complaint,
> > >lawsuit, etc.) are coming true. This is the downside of the TCML;
newbie
> > >fubar...
> > >
> > >
> > >Jeff W. Parisse
> > >Director, kVA Effects
> > ><http://www.teslacoil-dot-com/>www.teslacoil-dot-com
> > >310-748-5893
> > >
> > >
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