Re: Tesla's orphans

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Original poster: "June Heidlebaugh" <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com> 

The wire broke and the experiment failed. I don't know if an attempt was
ever made to try again.    Robert   H

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Subject: RE: Tesla's orphans


 > Original poster: "John H. Couture" <couturejh-at-mgte-dot-com>
 >
 >
 > Ed -
 >
 > I agree that Tesla would have a major engineering problem connecting the
 > earth conductor with the ionosphere conductor using the atmosphere for his
 > world electrical system. However, my understanding was he would be using
 > energy beams (low resistance?) to make these connections. Tesla said he
had
 > this all worked out but never revealed any of the details.
 >
 > The losses in the ionosphere might be fairly low because of the volume of
 > the ionosphere. It would be interesting to find out what NASA found for
the
 > electrical losses in the Thether experiments. I read somewhere that in one
 > of the experiments the tether was 12 miles long, 5000 volts, one amp, 5000
 > watts. The impedance would be 5000 ohms for the complete circuit. Most of
 > this impedance would be in the tiny wire tether of 63360 ft. If the
 > equivalent copper wire size of the tether for carrying current was #29 AWG
 > this resistance would be close to 5000 ohms. The return circuit in the
 > ionosphere would then be close to zero ohms! Note, I am only guessing at
the
 > value of the variables.
 >
 > This discussion may have a relationship to Tesla coils in the future
because
 > very high voltages are required in the ionosphere. Only small currents are
 > needed and this has the advantage that losses would be low.
 >
 > John Couture
 >
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 > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 2:42 PM
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 > Subject: Re: Tesla's orphans
 >
 >
 > Original poster: Ed Phillips <evp-at-pacbell-dot-net>
 >
 > John:
 >
 > I don't have a formula for the capacitance of two concentric spheres so
 > just calculated the capacitance of a flat plate capacitor with the two
 > planes the area of the earth and the spacing about 50,000 feet; simple
 > enough.  I don't have the calculations at hand (I'll look them up and
 > send them later), but it showed the impracticability of the whole idea.
 > In order to sustain his 100 MV with the power loss he mentions would
 > have required a Q of the order of 10^8!!!  As for the conductance of
 > ionized gasses, he should have realized that it's pretty low if he'd
 > bothered to calculate it based on the voltage drop in his tubes and
 > their cross section.  My copy of "Neon Signs" shows a limiting minimum
 > voltage drop of about 100 volts/foot (at 60 ma?) as the area is
 > increased.  That's about 1500 ohms/ft and would have introduced
 > astronomical losses with his system.
 >
 > More later if Terry doesn't shut this off,
 >
 > Ed
 >
 >