Re: Image legality: you've got to be kidding !!??

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Original poster: Kreso Bukvic <kreso.bukvic-at-kc.htnet.hr> 

Well Scott Hanson i really appriciate somebody stood in front of me and
defended me. I download that picture from the net and putted it there
because it would be hard to make such an image. Reason im having my site is
not so that the folks in Croatia go "uaaa" and "aaaa" when they see a Tesla
coil but to intrest sombody with Tesla! He is almost forgotten here in
Croatia there are only 2 coilers im the third! One is also active and second
did  make a small coil before 10 years by some plans and discarded it. So im
almost alone in this universe. But there is advantage after talking to some
people they are willing to help me let me number them: 1. People from local
power plant donate me PT-s 2.One of the biggest companies that makes pt-s,
pigs and other worldwide has envited me to come to their company and show
with a finger what i want it does not matter if i want 100 KVA pig or
somthing other they could make to me i just have to point  with a finger 3.
And many others. Biggest problem here are the capacitors. Even im only 18.5
years old, im strong as a bull but i do not like carrying all those buckets!
Biggest capacitor in Croatia is 2 kV 11 nF and costs 5 $ and this is too
disapointing to buy. Maybe thos pig PFC caps would work?  My parrents even
support me and made me an workshop where i do all the HV things. Well i do
now want to babble any more but i never stole nothing, ups im laying i stole
a candy bar with my friend when i was 8 ( is somebody going to sue me?). Il
take it down form site when i will have the time, i talked to lawyer that
defends my mothers company and her patents and he is waiting to tell him is
there an legal action or not so he can prepare. I would like to know this.

PS. Where to find HV capacitors ? A company that is named under 2. would
like to see their transformer at work and i just cannot refuse that. They
were so nice to me but seem that it is impossible to find one here.

PS2. I want to thank you again Scott Hanson.
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 4:20 AM
Subject: Image legality: you've got to be kidding !!??


 > Original poster: "Scott Hanson" <huil888-at-surfside-dot-net>
 >
 > Chris -
 >
 > You absolutely HAVE TO BE KIDDING!!??
 >
 > Such righteous indignation about "intellectual and professional ethics"??
 > "Plagiarism"?  Please give us a break!
 >
 > (People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ....)
 >
 > "Bucket capacitors" in many forms and permutations were developed by many
 > experimenters years before you first pressed your tongue against a 9 volt
 > battery. Salt water filled, aluminum-foil lined, wine-bottle clustered,
 > bucket-within-a-bucket, etc, etc were all done by others long ago.
 >
 > Just because the Geek Group site specifies the use of Corona beer bottles
 > add no new technology, breaks no new ground, provides no improvement over
 > past implementations, or introduces anything at all of value: its all been
 > done before.
 >
 > Reading Kreso Bukvik's posts to the TCML over the past few months, it's
 > obvious he's a young experimenter who has developed a strong interest in
 > Tesla coils, and is doing his best to learn the technology and make
sparks.
 > Despite the language barrier, he obviously reads and understands what's
 > being discussed in this forum, and is trying his best to scrape together
 > materials to build coils under rather difficult conditions in his native
 > Croatia. Given Nikola Tesla's Croatian origins, I'd think you'd be bending
 > over backwards to assist him rather than pompously threatening some
 > "international litigation".
 >
 > As far as I can tell, the ideas, concepts, materials, implementations,
 > configurations, test data, etc, etc, discussed on this list are all
provided
 > freely for the free, universal, unencumbered benefit of all.
 >
 > If you have developed something so new, so revolutionary, so far beyond
the
 > current state-of-the-art, then patent it and freely pursue "plagiarists"
and
 > others who seek to infringe your intellectual property.
 >
 > Otherwise .....
 >
 > Scott Hanson
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:52 PM
 > Subject: Image legality
 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: "Chris Boden" <cboden-at-thegeekgroup-dot-org>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Hi All,
 >  >      As many of you know, the Geek Group avidly supports the
dissemination
 > of
 >  > scientific and technical knowledge by all legitimate means. All
pictures,
 >  > texts, and diagrams on our web site are published with the permission
of
 > the
 >  > author(s) and credits are posted to the extent possible.  We usually
have
 > no
 >  > objections to anyone copying pictures and quoting text as long as
sources
 >  > are cited and appropriate credit given. However, copying from our site
 >  > without permission, removing credit lines, and publishing materials on
 >  > another website as one's own, is intellectually and professionally
 > unethical
 >  > and, in the case of copyrighted materials, also illegal, even
 >  > internationally.
 >  >
 >  > Because pursuing remedy claims internationally through the legal system
is
 >  > very slow, painful, and costly, we are asking the members of TCML, the
 >  > largest peer-review TC group, to consider this several-year-old
 > illustration
 >  > from our website:
 >  >    http://www.thegeekgroup-dot-org/projects/bucketcap/
 >  >
 >  > and compare it to this recent website:
 >  > http://free-kc.htnet.hr/Kreso-Bukvic/Izrada%20VN%20kondezatora.htm
 >  >
 >  >     and use whatever peer pressure they may be able to exert to remedy
 > this
 >  > situation without our having to seek legal recourse.
 >  >      While we realize that sometimes a copy of a copy of a copy of
 > something
 >  > may inadvertently be displayed without permission/credits However
direct
 >  > plagiarism with deliberate editing out of names/logos is difficult to
see
 > as
 >  > accidental.
 >  >
 >  > Sincerely,
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > The Geek Group Board
 >  >
 >  >
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