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Re: grounding NST's



Original poster: "Gerry  Reynolds" <gerryreynolds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Phil,

I think you are on the right track. A zone needs to be defined where anything inside is considered uninhabitable. Anything outside is considered safe from a strike. Your conduit to protect any 120V wiring going into the "danger zone" should be grounded to RF ground to allow return currents to go where they want to go to. Once the wiring is outside the danger zone, the conduit is no longer necessary. The conduit should NOT, in my opinion, be connected to mains ground. If the transformer is inside the "danger zone", I believe it is best to ground it to the RF ground. If outside (like a remote PIG), it probably should be grounded to mains ground for safety. However, if the latter, a strike to TC primary needs to be avoided at all cost.

Gerry R.

Original poster: FIFTYGUY@xxxxxxx
In a message dated 3/21/06 8:04:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, tesla@xxxxxxxxxx writes:

> I would also put a line filter on the primary side
>of a MOT or NST and a RFI choke (low impedance to 60Hz, high
>impedance to RF) on the ground between the case of the NST and a
>Terry filter on the HV side.

Dave, what kind of filter would you feel appropriate for the RFI choke here? Would a ferrite bead/ring type as used on power cords, with a couple turns of the wire connecting NST case and Terry/RF ground be sufficient? Or are you thinking a larger air-core coil? What value range?

>Grounding/bonding is a critical exercise to industrial equipment; people >have
>DIED by having defective safety ground bonds.

Only because they touched something that was "plugged in" and that they thought would be at safe potential while they were in contact with it. Doesn't solve the problem with things still plugged or hardwired in, or that store energy , such as caps or batteries. And since we don't touch the high voltage side of our Tesla coils while they are plugged in or while the caps are energized, this shouldn't be an issue with NST cases unless the NST is located at the control panel.
    So let me throw this *new* question out there:
Even if you put the NST at the coil proper (in "high voltage land"), you still have to run power (LV) wires to it. So how do you ground things in case of a secondary strike to these LV wires? I'm running my LV wires in a flexible metal gooseneck conduit, so a secondary strike will hit the conduit instead of the power wires. These power wires include the "hot" to the NST from the variac, the "hot" to run the SRSG from the phase control, the "hot" to run the gap cooling fans, and a neutral common to all three. Obviously, a secondary strike to any of these would be bad. But the conduit will be a relatively large piece of tubular metal laying on the floor, so I'm hoping it will have low impedance to RF ground and thus protect the wiring inside. So far so good? But how do we bond it to ground? After all, a short of any of the hots to the conduit will make the whole thing hot, and a long piece of flexible metal conduit on a concrete floor isn't necessarily going to trip any breakers or blow fuses to indicate the fault. And it isn't safe, either, since the conduit is connected at the panel end and therefore accessible during normal (plugged in) operation. So we can't leave the conduit floating. One end (at the coil?) to RF ground? Remember, the theory is to have low impedance to RF ground. But we have other concerns as well. So other end (at the control panel?) to house ground? But then what if it takes a streamer hit? And we can't bond it to *both* house and RF ground, because that would be like tying both together. Maybe if the conduit was itself an RF choke? Perhaps the conduit should be nonmetallic up to the point of the maximum expected reach of RF and streamer hits, but metallic and tied to RF ground in the vicinity of the coil?

-Phil LaBudde