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fantastic looking car coil. reminds me a lot of mine. I also love the animated gifts.I run a 15 inch coil in the middle of the city in my backyard with a 40 by 60 foot backyard. Throws about 14 inch streamers. Hope to post some pictures soon. Beautiful toroid!

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   1. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (Peter Terren)
   2. Re: Photos (Joe Mastroianni)
   3. Re: Photos (steve date)
   4. Re: Photos (Tesla)
   5. Re: Photos (Andrew Robinson)
   6. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (Chip Atkinson)
   7. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (Jim Lux)
   8. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (AusTesla)
   9. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (AusTesla)
  10. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (dave pierson)
  11. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (Jim Lux)
  12. Re: Announcing:  New tcml web site (AusTesla)
  13. Re: Photos (Andrew Webster)
  14. Re: Photos (Tesla)

Hi Chip
An image to consider for a low flat header. It is reasonably well known.  I 
suspect a rotating set of images would suit best as you will probably get 
lots of good ones.
http://tesladownunder.com/Tesla18Week2FullBright3000.jpg  ; and trim as you 
wish or I can do it.

Cheers
Peter

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Chip Atkinson" <chip@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:05 PM
To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [TCML] Announcing:  New tcml web site

> Greetings everyone,
>
> I have the new web site close enough to being complete that I decided to 
> switch over to it.
>
> You may notice that there are links with .php files in them.  This is a 
> result of switching to the new server with modern(ish) software on it.
>
> I'm also hoping to get some image gallery software installed so I can host 
> pictures of list members and update them on a timely basis.
>
> The old pages are still there too, so you can go to 
> http://www.pupman.com/index.html.
>
> I know there are some inconsistencies and sort of navigational dead-ends. 
> If you find them, let me know and I'll do what I can to fix them.
>
> I think it would be nice to have some tesla coil themed image across the 
> top.  It would have to be wide and short.  The winner would get to have 
> his or her image displayed with all TCML web hits and a free, yes, free 3 
> year subscription to TCML. :-)
>
> Thanks everyone for making this list what it is.
>
>
> Chip Atkinson
> TCML list owner.
> _______________________________________________
> Tesla mailing list
> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
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Very nice coil

I especially like to see pictures of big coils in people's driveways in 
regular residential neighborhoods.   In some places, it probably scares 
the bebjezus out of folks.  But it always generates a lot of questions.

In my neighborhood, we got no complaints.  But I had a few pesky 
neighbors suspecting that I was trying to enact time travel or creating 
free energy somehow and they wanted in on it.   I really had a mental 
debate as to whether I should disabuse them of those theories.  I 
figured there could be some use at some point to neighbors thinking I 
had a time machine, only I still can't figure out what.

Meanwhile - the sight of a working coil in a neighborhood driveway 
validates that in our country "normal" people are industrious, creative, 
skillful people, and capable of making lightning at will.   I wouldn't 
want it any other way.

Joe
a proud coiler for the past 5 years.


On 12/10/2013 6:54 AM, Andrew Webster wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Earlier this year I mostly finished my 8" MOT powered coil build and a
> photographer friend of mind come over to shoot some photos of it. These
> turned out very well and I thought I would share them here with you.
>
> By mostly finished I mean that I am still running my async gap as I am
> still working on my sync motor, but other than that it was running very
> well.
>
> It is a 8" coil,
> 1600 turns
> 42" toroid
> 6 MOTs
> async gap
>
> All of the credit for the photos go to James Kimble who was so kind to take
> these for me.
>
> I hope you all enjoy these as much as I do.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andrew Webster
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/albums/5955774501458055681?authkey=CIWr58v6keKe2gE
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Nice pics Andrew, I especially liked the gif's at the bottom.

Here's a better url as the one you listed didn't work:

https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/albums/5955774501458055681

Thanks,

steve-seattle
=============================================================
On 12/10/2013 6:54 AM, Andrew Webster wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Earlier this year I mostly finished my 8" MOT powered coil build and a
> photographer friend of mind come over to shoot some photos of it. These
> turned out very well and I thought I would share them here with you.
>
> By mostly finished I mean that I am still running my async gap as I am
> still working on my sync motor, but other than that it was running very
> well.
>
> It is a 8" coil,
> 1600 turns
> 42" toroid
> 6 MOTs
> async gap
>
> All of the credit for the photos go to James Kimble who was so kind to take
> these for me.
>
> I hope you all enjoy these as much as I do.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andrew Webster
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/albums/5955774501458055681?authkey=CIWr58v6keKe2gE
> _______________________________________________


-- 
Dianne Feinstein: "All vets are mentally ill in some way and government 
should prevent them from owning firearms"



Nice Andrew

Would you mind posting a little more about the specs of the beastie please, 
Details of  Cp, MOT config,  power draw etc

I assume AC design, 3 MOT's per side centre ground, no ballasting and about 
10kVA

Thanks
Ted in NZ

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<SNIP>
Andrew Webster

https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/albums/5955774501458055681?authkey=CIWr58v6keKe2gE
_______________________________________________



On 12/10/2013 11:21 AM, steve date wrote:
> Nice pics Andrew, I especially liked the gif's at the bottom.
>
> Here's a better url as the one you listed didn't work:
>
> https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/albums/5955774501458055681 
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> steve-seattle 
Hahahaha this was amazing. I opened the link and it was opened through 
Google+. It apparently tags your icon pic in a little circle over every 
pic when you hover. Since your icon is a little dog, it looked as if you 
had placed your family pet inside a hamster ball faraday cage and placed 
at the bottom of your coil. Awesome!

Needed that laugh at work today


Thanks everyone.

Let's not forget the moderation team in our gratitude.  They are the 
tireless ones performing the moderation duties which are significant.

One thing I didn't mention was that my desire for the banner picture was 
something above or behind the "Tesla Coil Mailing List" banner, so the 
picture should be wide and short.  I'll try some cropped images to see how 
it works.

I also really like the idea of a rotating set of images.  It would make 
the site more interesting I think.

Chip

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013, Peter Terren wrote:

> Hi Chip
> An image to consider for a low flat header. It is reasonably well known.  I 
> suspect a rotating set of images would suit best as you will probably get 
> lots of good ones.
> http://tesladownunder.com/Tesla18Week2FullBright3000.jpg  ; and trim as you 
> wish or I can do it.
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Chip Atkinson" <chip@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:05 PM
> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [TCML] Announcing:  New tcml web site
>
>>  Greetings everyone,
>>
>>  I have the new web site close enough to being complete that I decided to
>>  switch over to it.
>>
>>  You may notice that there are links with .php files in them.  This is a
>>  result of switching to the new server with modern(ish) software on it.
>>
>>  I'm also hoping to get some image gallery software installed so I can host
>>  pictures of list members and update them on a timely basis.
>>
>>  The old pages are still there too, so you can go to
>>  http://www.pupman.com/index.html.
>>
>>  I know there are some inconsistencies and sort of navigational dead-ends.
>>  If you find them, let me know and I'll do what I can to fix them.
>>
>>  I think it would be nice to have some tesla coil themed image across the
>>  top.  It would have to be wide and short.  The winner would get to have
>>  his or her image displayed with all TCML web hits and a free, yes, free 3
>>  year subscription to TCML. :-)
>>
>>  Thanks everyone for making this list what it is.
>> 
>>
>>  Chip Atkinson
>>  TCML list owner.
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Tesla mailing list
>>  Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
>>  http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>> 
>
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>


On 12/10/13 3:27 PM, Chip Atkinson wrote:
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Let's not forget the moderation team in our gratitude.  They are the
> tireless ones performing the moderation duties which are significant.
>

I do it for the 50% discount in mailing list member subscription fees.



Hi Chip, Jim,

You guys are fantastic.  I'll be the first to give folks like Chip and Jim a
nod for their good will in doing this.  Because, for mostly list lurkers
like me who don't often post, but love the technical content and the
intelligent discussion that goes on, it is a real joy, and one of the main
reasons I have never cancelled my subscription to the list.  I used to be a
member of the PIC chip mailing list ... well there is another story, and I
good reason I am a member no longer.

Best Regards,
Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Lux
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:21 AM
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [TCML] Announcing: New tcml web site

On 12/10/13 3:27 PM, Chip Atkinson wrote:
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Let's not forget the moderation team in our gratitude.  They are the 
> tireless ones performing the moderation duties which are significant.
>

I do it for the 50% discount in mailing list member subscription fees.

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That nod is really deserved for all the wonderful people that post to this
list for the same reasons.  I love the intelligent discussion but don't
usually feel smart enough to join in, hence my mostly lurker status.  Hope
to have some pictures and videos soon of some new coils I am building though
that I can share.

>From the moderators, just as an idea to list members who might be
interested, how much trolling and the like to you guys have to filter for
us?  We members never get to see the rubbish that so many other lists
endure.

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: AusTesla [mailto:austesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 1:59 PM
To: 'Tesla Coil Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [TCML] Announcing: New tcml web site

Hi Chip, Jim,

You guys are fantastic.  I'll be the first to give folks like Chip and Jim a
nod for their good will in doing this.  Because, for mostly list lurkers
like me who don't often post, but love the technical content and the
intelligent discussion that goes on, it is a real joy, and one of the main
reasons I have never cancelled my subscription to the list.  I used to be a
member of the PIC chip mailing list ... well there is another story, and I
good reason I am a member no longer.

Best Regards,
Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Lux
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:21 AM
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [TCML] Announcing: New tcml web site

On 12/10/13 3:27 PM, Chip Atkinson wrote:
> Thanks everyone.
>
> Let's not forget the moderation team in our gratitude.  They are the 
> tireless ones performing the moderation duties which are significant.
>

I do it for the 50% discount in mailing list member subscription fees.

_______________________________________________
Tesla mailing list
Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla




> From the moderators, just as an idea to list members who might be
> interested, how much trolling and the like to you guys have to filter
> for us?
      Most if the dreck is caught by the sw, presented
      to YHS's as suspect and left to go away.
      Never kept count, maybe 5%?

      Of that, a fraction of a % is misguided, well
      intentioned items, requiring intervention.

      Thanks to all for your thoughtful participation.

       best
        dave p
         co mod


On 12/10/13 7:06 PM, AusTesla wrote:
> That nod is really deserved for all the wonderful people that post to this
> list for the same reasons.  I love the intelligent discussion but don't
> usually feel smart enough to join in, hence my mostly lurker status.  Hope
> to have some pictures and videos soon of some new coils I am building though
> that I can share.
>
>>From the moderators, just as an idea to list members who might be
> interested, how much trolling and the like to you guys have to filter for
> us?  We members never get to see the rubbish that so many other lists
> endure.
>
very little... The auto reject does about 5-10 messages a day (obvious 
spam or gibberish)

I'd say we reject perhaps a message a month (Chip can probably get some 
sort of statistic out of mailman).  Usually, it's someone who forgot 
some piece of info in a "for sale" listing.

I tend to reject or just drop messages that are responses to "test, is 
the list alive".. my rejection tells you that the list got the message 
posting, and there's no need to clutter the archives with it.

We get a message a month or so from someone posting from a different 
email source than they usually do.  If you're posting from multiple 
clients with multiple return addresses, you can just subscribe under the 
multiple addresses, and turn off delivery to all but one.





Thanks, that is good to know.  Quite a surprise really considering the
fervent nature of some less-than-credible mobs that unfortunately like to
link themselves to Tesla's work, no names need be mentioned but for the
complete lack of respect for the laws of thermodynamics that some of them
have.

Best Regards,
Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jim Lux
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2013 4:05 PM
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [TCML] Announcing: New tcml web site

On 12/10/13 7:06 PM, AusTesla wrote:
> That nod is really deserved for all the wonderful people that post to 
> this list for the same reasons.  I love the intelligent discussion but 
> don't usually feel smart enough to join in, hence my mostly lurker 
> status.  Hope to have some pictures and videos soon of some new coils 
> I am building though that I can share.
>
>>From the moderators, just as an idea to list members who might be
> interested, how much trolling and the like to you guys have to filter 
> for us?  We members never get to see the rubbish that so many other 
> lists endure.
>
very little... The auto reject does about 5-10 messages a day (obvious spam
or gibberish)

I'd say we reject perhaps a message a month (Chip can probably get some sort
of statistic out of mailman).  Usually, it's someone who forgot some piece
of info in a "for sale" listing.

I tend to reject or just drop messages that are responses to "test, is the
list alive".. my rejection tells you that the list got the message posting,
and there's no need to clutter the archives with it.

We get a message a month or so from someone posting from a different email
source than they usually do.  If you're posting from multiple clients with
multiple return addresses, you can just subscribe under the multiple
addresses, and turn off delivery to all but one.



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Hello all!

Thank you for the kind words, I had a wonderful time working on this and
look forward to getting the sync gap running and spring to come around so I
can test some more. Michigan winters are not good for outdoor coils haha.

As for the specs on the coil

The whole coil with the base and caster stands about 86" from the pavement.
My neighbors love it and I have drawn folks from several blocks away
looking for the noise. The house across the street had just moved in the
day before first light! Imagine their surprise when they looked out their
window that first night. I felt bad and shut down early as they hid inside
and peered out their windows through the blinds at their "crazy" new
neighbor, but the next day they had a ton of questions, we have now enjoyed
may a BBQs since then.

Toroid
42x8
(It is ducting covered in lightweight drywall compound and foil tape)

Secondary
8.25x38
1600 turns exactly

MMC is 142 942c
106.7nF

Power in is 240
Center grounded
All shunts removed so I do have them ballasted by an old arc welder
Before I removed the shunts I did not have the ballast but after removing
them I did for sure. But the performance seems to be quite a bit better and
my Mots seem to take the stress better.
I ballast them to about 40 amps of draw from the wall. So almost 10kva.
All mots are sealed and under oil.





On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Robinson <arobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> On 12/10/2013 11:21 AM, steve date wrote:
>
>> Nice pics Andrew, I especially liked the gif's at the bottom.
>>
>> Here's a better url as the one you listed didn't work:
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/photos/106207747745634902315/
>> albums/5955774501458055681
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> steve-seattle
>>
> Hahahaha this was amazing. I opened the link and it was opened through
> Google+. It apparently tags your icon pic in a little circle over every pic
> when you hover. Since your icon is a little dog, it looked as if you had
> placed your family pet inside a hamster ball faraday cage and placed at the
> bottom of your coil. Awesome!
>
> Needed that laugh at work today
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tesla mailing list
> Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
> http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla
>



Thanks Andrew, great to see your neighbours enjoying it too.

Just a little point, have you floated the cores of your  outer MOT's ?

I run a similar coil BUT the  6 MOT supply is full wave rectified , smoothed 
and resonant charging used. I float cores on one half and earth cores on the 
other side (just experimenting). ALL Outer MOT's are in oil like you do
Ta
ted

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Andrew Webster
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:26 AM
To: Tesla Coil Mailing List
Subject: Re: [TCML] Photos

Hello all!

Thank you for the kind words, I had a wonderful time working on this and
look forward to getting the sync gap running and spring to come around so I
can test some more. Michigan winters are not good for outdoor coils haha.

As for the specs on the coil
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