RE: [TCML] Using Triggered Gaps, was Designing a Coil Around a SRSG

[Scott Moseley <scott@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Do you guys have pics or schematics that I can have a quick look at.  I'm sure if I sit here and think about it long enough, I'll figure it out

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Subject: Re: [TCML] Using Triggered Gaps, was Designing a Coil Around a SRSG

I experimented with two methods that used an automotive ignition coil to trigger the cap using a centrally located tungsten rod placed halfway between the main static gap.
One method supplied voltage to the ignition coil to create the HV pulse, the other method removed voltage from the coil to create the pulse (inductive kick).  Both methods worked and I controlled the timing using a lamp-dimmer type triac/diac phase controller to time the spark.  (I used phase angle to trigger time-wise, not voltage.)  Both methods were a little touchy to adjust and were at the edge of their ranges for best results.  This was based on work that Mark Metlica did years ago, and John Tebbs also did some designing on the inductive kick method if I remember correctly.  This work should all be in the Pupman archives.  I had to set the main gap about 5/8" to 3/4" wide to prevent premature firing using a 12/30 NST.  I did these triggered static gap tests using my TT-42 coil which normally ran with a
120 bps synchronous rotary gap.  

   Jim wrote:

"On this basis, one would expect a single triggered gap with long path to be better than a multigap."


I agree.

Cheers,
John Freau





 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Moseley <scott@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sat, Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am
Subject: RE: [TCML] Designing a Coil Around a SRSG


Has anyone come up with a  good electrically triggered gap yet?  Maybe something 
that uses magnetic quenching?  If so, then you could sense the voltage across 
the cap, and then set a firing voltage.

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Jim Lux
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 11:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [TCML] Designing a Coil Around a SRSG

On 3/23/13 8:12 AM, Futuret wrote:
> contributes to longer sparks.  It is possible to achieve just as good 
> results using a static gap, but it has to be a triggered static gap.
> Interestingly, in my tests, the triggered gap was very loud and bright 
> due to the wide gap spacing which had to be used to prevent premature 
> firing.

  All this noise and light didn't noticeably reduce the spark length
> however, as I obtained the same spark length in both cases.

I think this makes sense.  The voltage drop (loss) across a gap is a combination 
of the 50-100V cathode drop and then the ohmic loss in the spark itself. For a 
reasonably high current arc, I'll bet the ohmic doesn't change all that much 
between, say, 3 and 10 mm.

On this basis, one would expect a single triggered gap with long path to be 
better than a multigap.

Somewhere back in the archives, I know this has been discussed..
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