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David and others, "Desert" was rather an extreme term, in hindsight, but It's just that since the downtime the group had seemed so quiet. There are other groups of course, but this one is the 'mother' of others to my thinking, (No, I'm not getting into a pedantic debate on the dates that other groups were established). So all credit to the work Chip has recently put into restoring things. I agree on the shift to solid state (ss) , as your thinking exactly reflects my own, but 'ss' is the way of everything, for the moment. The archives though contain pretty much anything on SG coils that a coiler needs to know, so those past stimulating debates on SG stuff, will naturally mostly be found there now. A nice thick streamer is the same whatever way it is created, but there is a satisfaction when it is with basic components that have changed little from Tesla's time. If this then serves as a springboard into a career in electronics and 'ss' in general for youngsters, then all the better, and shows SG still has its uses. On a separate personal note your Green Monster with its big toroid approach, has inspired, at the very least, myself and a fellow UK coiler to move away from 'table top' coils, and continually empty our pockets pursuing longer traditional streamers, so 'ss' and 'sg' can both be money pits. <grin> Phil -----Original Message----- From: tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tesla-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Rieben Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:34 AM To: Tesla Coil Mailing List Subject: Re: [TCML] Disc Dia. Hi Phil & Tim,  I think a lot of us out here are "lurking", not that the group has been abandoned. As for me personally, I suppose that I have kind of hit the ceiling of my involvement with Tesla coil related things and don't really have much more constructive info to add to most of the conversations on this list since the advent of DRSSTCs. I don't really have the mo- tivation (or the $$) to "start all over again" at the beginning of the learning curve to make the move from SGTCs to the all electronic versions of our beloved lightning machines ;^) Now as the subject of pole pig or PT driven SGTC systems still pops up now and again, I sometimes will chime in here, as I do have some practical and emperical knowledge along this aspect of coiling that I feel can occasionally be a very minor, but never-the-less positive contribution to the vast knowledge pool of this list.  David Rieben   From: Phil Tuck <phil@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: 'Tesla Coil Mailing List' <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [TCML] Disc Dia. Tim, . You wrote >>"Thank you. AT least it's something to talk about." YES! What's happaned? A week 'off air' and everyone deserts - shamefull. Regards Phil T http://www.hvtesla.com/ _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla