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Wil, Yes when the doubler is added, retuning is needed. If you do not have a tap-able primary, then an easy way to re-tune is to add capacitance to the tank circuit. You may need to add as much as 40% more capacitance if you tune that way. Or you can tap in more primary turns. If you change the number of primary turns, that can affect the grid feedback, etc. I always make my grid (feedback) coil on a sliding section that I can slide closer or farther from the primary to get the best results. Usually I use at least 1800 ohms for the grid resistor, and often about 2800 ohms or more. Of course that all depends on the type of tube, etc. In one setup for 36" sparks, I used 40,000 ohms for the grid resistor. A too-high grid resistor can cause problems however. You don't want the grid voltage to go higher than the plate voltage. My old (2) 833A tube coil gave 24" sparks using 2400VA without staccato. BTW, the tuning of a VTTC is more critical than it might seem at first. Proper tuning often won't increase the spark length very much but it will greatly reduce the input power draw. If your tube plates get red, then the degree of redness can be used to judge the tuning. With proper tuning, the coil should give maximum spark length with minimal plate redness. Tuning a VTTC is similar to tuning a radio transmitter. You can also monitor the input power draw as you're planning to do, as a way of judging proper tuning. Also final tuning must be done at full power. A coil that is tuned for full power/full spark length, will actually produce very short sparks when run at a low power input. Tuning for best results at a low power will never give a good result at high power. (I'm assuming your controlling your input power using a variac.) Cheers, John -----Original Message----- From: William Howard <snakeprior@xxxxxxxxx> To: tesla <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, May 19, 2014 8:56 pm Subject: Re: [TCML] Maximum arc length from 700w VTTC? Dear John, Thanks for the explanation of my questions, I see that alot in the design is there to protect the tube. I hooked the coil up last night with a voltage doubler and got slightly longer arcs but much hotter and louder. It kept overheating my diodes. So I agree it must be more than 700w. I will increase my grid leak from 180 ohms to 500 or more and focus on tuning to get more spark length instead of power. That is until my new mot transformers arrive and I use a battery powered rectifier tube in the doubler! But I am more satisfied than before now probably because fear has crept in now. A guy on youtube made 50cm sparks with 2000va by putting 600v on the screen I think this will be the next mod. I'm going to put a power meter on the mot soon and check the current draw. I would like a stable coil I can run for 30 mins but understand its quite technical. Thanks again. -Wil _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla