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Your coupling coefficient (k) looks low, probably because the bottom of the secondary windings are too high up from the primary. Using JAVATC, adjust the spacing between the primary and secondary and the vertical distance between the bottom of the secondary and the primary until the coupling coefficient is as close to the recommended value as possible. As a starting point I would make the bottom of the secondary the same height as the primary. I would then adjust the horizontal spacing between the secondary and primary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hall" <brianh4242@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Tesla Coil Mailing List" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 12:19:07 PM Subject: [TCML] Javatc questions, and primary to secondary coupling, etc Hi, I got a good 15.75" diameter flat wooden disc that I think will be perfect for my 4.25" diameter secondary that I've had wound for a while. 1) When the pvc secondary stands as a column in the middle of what will be the center of the primary, there is bare pvc 3" up until the turns start for the coil. Then there are 16" of 24 AWG wire. Given that, how far out from the bottom of the coil should I start my secondary turns? I was thinking of going about 3/4" to 1" away from the secondary pvc for the first turn where it will go down underneath to the rest of the tank circuit, is that too close to the secondary? Not close enough? I plan to use 25' of 1/4" copper tubing on 8 radial supports (I tried just 4 supports before, didn't work so good) 2) Is there a template or guide to making 8 radial spiral supports for 1/4" copper tubing spaced 1/4" apart, so as I wind the tubing around the notches will line up with the spiral? 3) Should the spiral direction of the primary match the spiral direction of the secondary? For example, when I look down on my secondary from above, as it will be when it's placed the finished design, the coil is wound counterclockwise from top to bottom, spiraling to the left. Given that, in what direction should I wind the primary, starting from the inside turn ? 4) When my javatc data below is rendered for this coil, the line drawing is far down below the canvas. Did I enter a number wrong, or could it be my browser acting up? J A V A T C version 13.2 - CONSOLIDATED OUTPUT 8/27/2017, 1:03:15 PM Units = Inches Ambient Temp = 68ºF ---------------------------------------------------- Surrounding Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 100 = Ground Plane Radius 100 = Wall Radius 200 = Ceiling Height ---------------------------------------------------- Secondary Coil Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- Current Profile = G.PROFILE_LOADED 2.125 = Radius 1 2.125 = Radius 2 3 = Height 1 19 = Height 2 711 = Turns 24 = Wire Awg ---------------------------------------------------- Primary Coil Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- Round Primary Conductor 3.75 = Radius 1 9.203 = Radius 2 1 = Height 1 1 = Height 2 10.8191 = Turns 0.25 = Wire Diameter 1 = Ribbon Width 0.1 = Ribbon Thickness 0.0077 = Primary Cap (uF) 30 = Total Lead Length 0.2 = Lead Diameter ---------------------------------------------------- Top Load Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- Toroid #1: minor=4, major=20, height=20, topload ---------------------------------------------------- Secondary Outputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 273.95 kHz = Secondary Resonant Frequency 90 deg ° = Angle of Secondary 16 inch = Length of Winding 44.4 inch = Turns Per Unit 0.0024 inch = Space Between Turns (edge to edge) 791.1 ft = Length of Wire 3.76:1 = H/D Aspect Ratio 20.1404 Ohms = DC Resistance 22603 Ohms = Reactance at Resonance 0.97 lbs = Weight of Wire 13.131 mH = Les-Effective Series Inductance 13.261 mH = Lee-Equivalent Energy Inductance 12.826 mH = Ldc-Low Frequency Inductance 25.703 pF = Ces-Effective Shunt Capacitance 25.452 pF = Cee-Equivalent Energy Capacitance 33.712 pF = Cdc-Low Frequency Capacitance 5.59 mils = Skin Depth 22.631 pF = Topload Effective Capacitance 79.7443 Ohms = Effective AC Resistance 283 = Q ---------------------------------------------------- Primary Outputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 273.95 kHz = Primary Resonant Frequency 0 % = Percent Detuned 0 deg ° = Angle of Primary 36.69 ft = Length of Wire 6.09 mOhms = DC Resistance 0.254 inch = Average spacing between turns (edge to edge) 2.442 inch = Proximity between coils 1.77 inch = Recommended minimum proximity between coils 43.144 µH = Ldc-Low Frequency Inductance 0.0077 µF = Cap size needed with Primary L (reference) 0.861 µH = Lead Length Inductance 67.056 µH = Lm-Mutual Inductance 0.09 k = Coupling Coefficient 0.13 k = Recommended Coupling Coefficient 11.11 = Number of half cycles for energy transfer at K 20.18 µs = Time for total energy transfer (ideal quench time) ---------------------------------------------------- Transformer Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 120 [volts] = Transformer Rated Input Voltage 15000 [volts] = Transformer Rated Output Voltage 30 [mA] = Transformer Rated Output Current 60 [Hz] = Mains Frequency 140 [volts] = Transformer Applied Voltage 0 [amps] = Transformer Ballast Current ---------------------------------------------------- Transformer Outputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 450 [volt*amps] = Rated Transformer VA 500000 [ohms] = Transformer Impedence 17500 [rms volts] = Effective Output Voltage 4.38 [rms amps] = Effective Transformer Primary Current 0.035 [rms amps] = Effective Transformer Secondary Current 613 [volt*amps] = Effective Input VA 0.0053 [ºF] = Resonant Cap Size 0.008 [ºF] = Static gap LTR Cap Size 0.0138 [ºF] = SRSG LTR Cap Size 83 [ºF] = Power Factor Cap Size 24749 [peak volts] = Voltage Across Cap 61872 [peak volts] = Recommended Cap Voltage Rating 2.36 [joules] = Primary Cap Energy 331.2 [peak amps] = Primary Instantaneous Current 35.8 [inch] = Spark Length (JF equation using Resonance Research Corp. factors) 135.2 [peak amps] = Sec Base Current ---------------------------------------------------- Static Spark Gap Inputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 2 = Number of Electrodes 0.25 [inch] = Electrode Diameter 0.1 [inch] = Total Gap Spacing ---------------------------------------------------- Static Spark Gap Outputs: ---------------------------------------------------- 0.1 [inch] = Gap Spacing Between Each Electrode 24749 [peak volts] = Charging Voltage 7759 [peak volts] = Arc Voltage 39347 [volts] = Voltage Gradient at Electrode 77586 [volts/inch] = Arc Voltage per unit 31.3 [%] = Percent Cp Charged When Gap Fires 3.11 [ms] = Time To Arc Voltage 322 [BPS] = Breaks Per Second 0.23 [joules] = Effective Cap Energy 134948 [peak volts] = Terminal Voltage 75 [power] = Energy Across Gap 32 [inch] = Static Gap Spark Length (using energy equation) _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla _______________________________________________ Tesla mailing list Tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.pupman.com/mailman/listinfo/tesla